
Effortless Breeze
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2012.03.07 08:34:00 -
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So CCP, what exactly is it? You've only released incomplete statements about how current skills will translate over to your new system
Dev blog wrote:Split Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills into 4 racial variants, and turn them into requirements for training upper classes. Amarr Battleship would now require Amarr Battlecruiser at 4.
This tidbit makes it seem the progression you are aiming at
Racial Frigate IV unlocks Racial Destroyer Racial Destroyer IV unlocks Racial Cruiser. Racial Cruiser IV unlocks Racial Battlecruiser Racial Battlecruiser IV unlocks Racial Battleship Racial Battleship IV unlocks Racial Capital
This image also supports that idea
CCP Soundwave wrote: No one is saying you have to retrain them. Our principle for the reimbursement here will be "if you could fly it yesterday, you can still fly it today". Ytterbium will post the further details of this once it's written up. source
So I could fly any of the destroyers with racial frigate 1 and racial destroyer current on TQ. I could fly any battle cruiser on TQ with racial cruiser III and Battlecruiser III
I could fly Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Battleships and Capitals without destroyers on TQ I could fly Battleships and Capitals without battle cruisers at all on TQ
So if I had neither battlecruisers or destroyers trained but say racial battleship IV trained, I wouldn't be able to fly it without getting both racial destroyer IV or racial battlecruiser IV post patch
So assuming that you will be able to fly all ships you can fly post patch, any level of racial cruiser trained would need to get a racial destroyer to IV added to your characters skills. Any level of racial battleship or capital would require both racial destroyer AND racial battlecruiser IV to be added to the character sheet
CCP Ytterbium wrote: Destroyer and Battlecruiser reimbursement: it has been said before, but allow us to repeat again, that we do not want to cut ships you can already fly. Thus, having BC skill at 5 would mean you get all four variations at 5.
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Alright so any levels trained of Destroyers and Battlecruisers will translate to the 4 new racial variations
But on TQ, you only need racial frigate III and destroyers I to fly a destroyer. You only need racial cruiser III and battlecruiser III to fly a battlecruiser. The new system implies you need all smaller ship classes to IV to move up a ship hull
An example, somebody with Caldari Cruiser III, Battlecruiser V and the skillbook for destroyers not injected at all. What would they get? They could get all racial variants of battlecruiser V added to their skill sheet but they would be lacking not only Racial Destroyer IV, but also Racial Cruiser IV. Would this example get those additional skills as well in order to follow on CCP's soundwave statement that you will be able to fly everything you could pre-patch?
Or say somebody with Battlecruiser III, destroyer II and Racial Battleship V. If you translate the original battle cruiser and destroyer skill levels, they will get all racial destroyers II and all racial battlecruisers III. However, this will not allow them to fly battleships or larger in the new system (since they don't have racial destroyers to IV or cruisers to IV)
In order to get all Racial Battlecruisers to V and all Racial Destroyers to V, do you need to train other things assuming you already have Battlecruisers V and Destroyers V on TQ currently? If you have any battleship or capital skills would you need to train destroyers to IV and battlecruisers to IV to use those? |